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	<title>Comments on: Radical Church Renewal</title>
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	<description>the personal musings and art of Randal Birkey</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rbirkey</title>
		<link>http://www.birkeyblog.com/2008/05/10/radical-church-renewal/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>rbirkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Buhler,

Since when is addressing someone as a "Mr." a sign of ignorance or disrespect? Where I come from, people are addressing one another as "Hey!" Encouraging signs of respect such as "Mr." and Mrs." are what we need more of. If Mr. Meyers wants to be addressed as something else, he should probably let us know by referring to himself that way. On his blog, he is simply PZ Meyers. I gave him more "respect" than he gives himself.

I am not sure why you and "ddr" left your comments on this particular post. It seems out of place and has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Helen seems to get it... why not you?

It also seems to me that you are both objecting in some way to a question I asked PZ Meyers on his blog Pharyngula, since you quoted it above. Can you clarify exactly what your problem is with that question? It seems like a very fair and logical question to me. 

In the movie "Expelled," Ben Stein raises the issue that you seem to be exemplifying. Why such a negative response to a simple question? Is there a problem with wanting to find and understand truth? Can we have an open, rational, civil debate? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Buhler,</p>
<p>Since when is addressing someone as a &#8220;Mr.&#8221; a sign of ignorance or disrespect? Where I come from, people are addressing one another as &#8220;Hey!&#8221; Encouraging signs of respect such as &#8220;Mr.&#8221; and Mrs.&#8221; are what we need more of. If Mr. Meyers wants to be addressed as something else, he should probably let us know by referring to himself that way. On his blog, he is simply PZ Meyers. I gave him more &#8220;respect&#8221; than he gives himself.</p>
<p>I am not sure why you and &#8220;ddr&#8221; left your comments on this particular post. It seems out of place and has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Helen seems to get it&#8230; why not you?</p>
<p>It also seems to me that you are both objecting in some way to a question I asked PZ Meyers on his blog Pharyngula, since you quoted it above. Can you clarify exactly what your problem is with that question? It seems like a very fair and logical question to me. </p>
<p>In the movie &#8220;Expelled,&#8221; Ben Stein raises the issue that you seem to be exemplifying. Why such a negative response to a simple question? Is there a problem with wanting to find and understand truth? Can we have an open, rational, civil debate?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Buhler, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.birkeyblog.com/2008/05/10/radical-church-renewal/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Buhler, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blog Pharyngula has a post from you:

"Mr. Myers,

I respectfully ask you to share with me on what grounds you object to this man's treatment of is daughter? You seem to be appealing to me to agree with you about how vile this man is based upon some shared sense of fairness or decency that he has supposedly violated. What is the source of that shared standard you are appealing to me to agree with you based on?

Or, have I misunderstood you?
Randy"


If you intend to be respectful, *do* get his title right.

Calling him "Mr. Myers" displays ignorance or disrespect (or both?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blog Pharyngula has a post from you:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Myers,</p>
<p>I respectfully ask you to share with me on what grounds you object to this man&#8217;s treatment of is daughter? You seem to be appealing to me to agree with you about how vile this man is based upon some shared sense of fairness or decency that he has supposedly violated. What is the source of that shared standard you are appealing to me to agree with you based on?</p>
<p>Or, have I misunderstood you?<br />
Randy&#8221;</p>
<p>If you intend to be respectful, *do* get his title right.</p>
<p>Calling him &#8220;Mr. Myers&#8221; displays ignorance or disrespect (or both?).</p>
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		<title>By: ddr</title>
		<link>http://www.birkeyblog.com/2008/05/10/radical-church-renewal/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>ddr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are saying that you want the church to evolve into something the better suits your spiritual needs.  That the churches who adapt to better fulfill the need will be more successful and get a larger congregation.  And those who do not change will have people drift away and will die out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are saying that you want the church to evolve into something the better suits your spiritual needs.  That the churches who adapt to better fulfill the need will be more successful and get a larger congregation.  And those who do not change will have people drift away and will die out.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.birkeyblog.com/2008/05/10/radical-church-renewal/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy have you seen this site: &lt;a href="http://deepchurch.org.uk/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Deep Church&lt;/a&gt;? It's a thoughtful careful exploration of what church could be and should be by people who respect Christian theological orthodoxy. It's also a conversation (i.e. a blog with regular posts and active ongoing discussion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy have you seen this site: <a href="http://deepchurch.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">Deep Church</a>? It&#8217;s a thoughtful careful exploration of what church could be and should be by people who respect Christian theological orthodoxy. It&#8217;s also a conversation (i.e. a blog with regular posts and active ongoing discussion).</p>
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